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Hot New Idea: Doctors Should Be Trained to Determine Who is “Fit” to Carry a Gun

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This is from Town Hall.

This can of worms should never be opened. 

Remember when I warned about the dangers of President Obama’s Surgeon General nominee Vivek Murthy? Here’s another reason why the National Rifle Association and even pro-Second Amendment Democrats have lined up togetherto oppose his nomination: the Left wants doctors trained to determine who is “fit” to carry a firearm. More on this proposal and study being used to justify the move from The Atlantic:

 The American Medical Association, the American College of Physicians and U.S. Surgeon General nominee Vivek Murthy are calling gun violence a public health crisis.

North Carolina is among the states where law enforcement can ask physicians to sign off on competency permits, but a recent survey of the state’s doctors shows many of them worry they may not be equipped to judge their patients’ physical and mental ability to handle concealed guns safely. The U.S. currently lacks training programs and comprehensive standards to guide doctors in making such assessments, so physicians are reduced to using their best clinical judgment.

Twenty-one percent of doctors who responded to the survey said they had been asked to sign off on concealed-weapons competency permits, and indicated they had done so 80 percent of the time when asked. But most of them admitted they did not feel comfortable assessing patients’ physical competence to carry a gun. A sizable minority also expressed concerns about mental competence evaluations. Most physicians (84 percent) felt that medical assessments for competency should be conducted by physicians specifically trained in doing so.

“There are things we can do now to change this,” Dr. Kathy Barnhouse, a professor of family medicine at the University of North Carolina School of Medicine and co-author of the study, said in a press release. “We discovered that the great majority of physicians feel that assessments for concealed weapons permits should best be done by providers specifically trained in making such assessments, presumably with standards to make assessments about mental and physical competence.”

And how does Obamacare play into this?

 The North Carolina survey also showed that doctors are concerned about the potential ethical consequences participation in this assessment might have for the doctor-patient relationship. While the Affordable Care Act forbids the collection and recording of data about patients’ gun ownership, the Obama administration has made it clear that health laws do not prevent physicians from disclosing necessary information about a patient to law enforcement, family members or other people when the patient is deemed to present a serious danger to himself or others. But the American Psychiatric Association has cautioned against laws requiring doctors to talk to law enforcement about patients who may appear to pose a threat to themselves or others.

The connection they’re trying to make here is between mental health issues and concealed carry permit holders, which is a non-argument. Gun control advocates get their ideas from mass shootings or from bogus “child” gun death stats that they conveniently fail to acknowledge come from gang activity in big cities like New York and Chicago. Nearly every mass killer who used a gun in the past five years gave ample warning signs about plans to do harm, but those signs were ignored repeatedly by parents and police.

Concealed carry permit holders aren’t the people carrying out mass shootings or gang murders. Instead, they overwhelmingly obey the laws already on the books and don’t need a doctor stepping in to infringe on their Second Amendment rights. Concealed carry permit holders aren’t the problem and they shouldn’t be made into one for the sake of doing something about “gun violence.”

 

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Medical Malpractice Deaths Nine Times Higher Than Gun Homicides – Let’s End the AMA

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This is from Freedom Outpost.

The amount malpractice deaths is unacceptable. 

I am calling on Congress to do the right thing and ban the AMA.

Roughly 98,000 people die each year at a cost of about $29 Billion Dollars.

Malpractice Deaths are nine times higher the gun deaths.

My idea is a wacked as the gun grabbers wanting to ban guns.

But sadly the gun grabbers have the poser in chief in their corner.

 

I admit that I’m worked up over the advance by the liberals in our country who are out to repeal the Second Amendment, calling for weapons bans, the murder of the National Rifle Association’s president and its members. As a result, I want to turn the table on them a bit. Because medical malpractice causes far more deaths each year than guns do, I’d like to demand that we shut down the American Medical Association (AMA.)

Understand, I am merely making this argument tongue in cheek, but listen to the facts.

Justice.org reports,

The Institute of Medicine’s (IOM) seminal study of preventable medical errors estimated as many as 98,000 people die every year at a cost of $29 billion. If the Centers for Disease Control were to include preventable medical errors as a category, these conclusions would make it the sixth leading cause of death in America.

Further research has confirmed the extent of medical errors. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) found that there were 181,000 severe injuries attributable to medical negligence in 2003. The Institute for Healthcare Improvement estimates there are 15 million incidents of medical harm each year. HealthGrades, the nation’s leading healthcare rating organization, found that Medicare patients who experienced a patient-safety incident had a one-in-five chance of dying as a result.

In the decade since the IOM first shined a light on the dismal state of patient safety in American hospitals, many proposals for improvement have been discussed and implemented. But recent research indicates that there is still much that needs to be done. Researchers at the Harvard School of Medicine have found that even today, about 18 percent of patients in hospitals are injured during the course of their care and that many of those injuries are life-threatening, or even fatal. The Office of the Inspector General of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services found that one in seven Medicare patients are injured during hospital stays and that adverse events during the course of care contribute to the deaths of 180,000 patients every year.

This is an outrage! I can’t believe the liberals are not calling for a complete end to the practice of medicine completely with 98,000 people dying each year from basically medical malpractice. Why is something not being advanced by the federal government? Oh wait, there is. It’s called Obamacare, or we know it as “more government.” Inevitably this will not lead to less malpractice or deaths. I’m betting long term it will lead to greater numbers of both.

Now, compare the numbers of medical malpractice and the deaths associated with it to those of guns used in homicides.

According to the Centers For Disease Control and Prevention in a 2009 report it was discovered that 11,493 people died in the United States as a result of being shot with a firearm.

There’s almost nine times the number of people dying in this country from medical malpractice and the answer we have to that is to put big, ineffective, inefficient government behind more legislation, more control and more funding, but when it comes to guns, well, we can’t have people with scary looking weapons in their possession. We have to create more laws to control them by. In the meantime the liberals never tell anyone that the laws will stop the lawbreakers from obtaining those firearms that they ban. Nor will they tell people that laws do not stop the bullets that comes from the firearms that lawbreakers obtain. People just think that a law is signed and it magically stops bad guys, but it doesn’t quite work that way.

So with these simply statistics, perhaps we should begin petitioning the White House to shut down the AMA since they seem to be responsible for far more deaths than anyone with a gun has been.

By the way, yes you can also call for the closing down of auto manufacturers since people are killed in cars many times over each year. Of course, the scary thing is that if we were to do such a thing in a sarcastic way, the liberals would only get a light bulb to come on in their heads on how they could accomplish it.

Read more: http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/12/medical-malpractice-deaths-nine-times-higher-than-gun-homicides-lets-end-the-ama/#ixzz2FN6iRwrn

 

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