New York Sheriff On Handgun Renewal Permits, ‘Throw Them In The Garbage Because That Is Where They Belong.’ [VIDEO]


This is from The Daily Caller.

Bravo Sheriff Thomas Lorey Bravo.

Fulton County, N.Y. is home to a strong hunting and fishing tradition. Guns are everywhere, but life isn’t easy.

Temperatures are often well below zero, and snow piles drift up so high against your home that you have to go to the second floor to be able to look outside a window.

Jobs are scarce since the leather industry exited a few decades ago. Taxes are high, and it seems the government solution to the unemployment problem is to move people to public assistance.

 It is the perfect example of a bad state government imposing its will on a people that don’t need advice from Albany politicians that have never set foot into the county. The people there want to be able to care for themselves.

As a kid, the only time in 10 years I was ever stopped by the police for carrying a gun through Fulton County was when I was walking home from a hunt with my Ithaca Model 37.

The officer pulled over and asked if I was coming or going to hunt. When I told him I was walking home he responded with, “Oh, OK, I get off in 30 minutes and was just wondering if you wanted to go out.”

If you want to meet people upset with the government, you would do well to stop by Fulton County.

Enter Sheriff Thomas Lorey. Lorey has been a lawman in the county in one form or other for nearly 45 years. Before becoming a police officer he was a Navy man. Somewhere in-between he became an “Oath Keeper.”

Oath Keepers are former military and law enforcement/first responders who still pledge to, “Defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”

Lorey is intending to uphold his oath against those Second Amendment hating politicians in the state capitol.

In a video posted on Friday, this is how Lorey opened his remarks to a small group of concerned citizens, “We’re starting this fight, this fight is going to be a long and difficult fight.

The government and Andrew Cuomo are dragging us into a pit. These are the folks (present meeting attendees) that are going to drag us out of the pit because I think this war is going to last that long.”

“One of the things I want to talk about is the renewal of pistol permits,” the sheriff continues. “There is a lot of scuttlebutt going around about it and I want to set the record straight.

Fulton County is one of the pilot counties…they are going to send out 500 invitations to my county and that’s all they are is invitations. The invitation is going to ask you if you would like to renew early…I’m asking everyone that gets those invitations to throw them in the garbage because that is where they belong.”

 New York has two types of handgun permits. One type is a permit to carry, which is rarely approved.
The second is a permit to possess a handgun. Regarding the permit to possess a handgun, the sheriff is telling his audience to allow their permit paperwork to expire.

“Don’t do it, let’s have everybody’s permit expire the same day and let them see what they are going to do with it,” he said.

This is a David vs. Goliath fight for gun rights. Fulton County is poised to defy a governor that has forced unreasonable gun restrictions on law-abiding citizens – in this case paying the state for the right to keep your handgun.

Fortunately, there is one sheriff who is not afraid to make a stand for the right to keep and bear arms.

Hats off to Lorey. A nation of gun owners applauds you.




Five times liberals mocked gun owners in 2014 (Video)

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This is from Liberty UnYielding.

In all of my years on this earth Liberals have mocked gun owners and always will.

Liberals have sought to disarm Americans with they will succeed  if we let down our guard for a moment.

In 2013, coming off the heels of the Sandy Hook tragedy, liberals tried to seize the emotions of a nation and came hard after law-abiding gun owners. It was a year that divided America on the topic of the Second Amendment.

2014 however, saw serious backlash to gun grabbers such as Andrew Cuomo and his SAFE Act legislation and the President, who issued executive orders tying Obamacare to gun control. Cuomo had a difficult time within his own party’s primary, as well as in the general election, while President Obama famously stated that his polices were on the ballot and subsequently watched Democrat after Democrat get voted out of office.

This past year has also been good to those giving and receiving the gift of a gun for recreation or defense this holiday season. While overall spending has dropped 11%, gun sales have been booming for those selling guns this holiday season.

With all those people gifting a gun for Christmas, we thought we’d take a look back at some instances where liberals tried to disparage or demean gun owners – a reminder that the left will still continue to come after your rights, a little bit at a time.

Here are a few examples from this past year:

Police Employee Claims Second Amendment Was only for ‘When the British Were Coming’

Aside from the fact that this man’s history was a bit off — the Second Amendment was adopted in 1791, while Paul Revere warned of British Army activity in 1775 – how absurd is the idea that the Founding Fathers, fresh off a revolution, didn’t actually design the Second Amendment with the thought in mind that Americans would one day need protection from a tyrannical government?

Yet, here we have a police department employee saying:

I believe when the Second Amendment was written, that was more or less for when the British were coming.

Silly American, thinking you had certain rights in this country.

Hillary Clinton Says Gun Owners ‘Terrorize the Majority of People’

In a town hall-style event televised on CNN 2016 Presidential hopeful, Hillary Clinton, made the argument that a ban on so-called “assault” weapons and high-capacity magazines would help reduce gun violence. Then, this happened:


Newspaper Calls Second Amendment Supporter a Gun Nut, Gun Worshiper, and Zealot

In one of the more overt examples of media bias against gun owners, the New York Daily News labeled an avid hunter who won a modified AR-15 in a church raffle a “gun nut, gun worshiper, and zealot.”

Lib College Students Sign Petition to Have Gun Owners “Executed”

It comes as little surprise that college campuses – bastions of liberal idiocy – would see a trove of students willing to sign a petition for any leftist cause. Admittedly however, it is a bit surprising that they’d be willing to sign a petition in which their ideological opposites would be “executed.”

Yet, here we are:

CNN host and gun control advocate John Walsh reported that Joe Biden referred to Second Amendment supporters as “tea baggers” in a private conversation.

Via National Review:

“I said to Joe Biden, ‘90 percent of Americans are for a responsible background check for a gun, and you know what this Congress has done? Not voted on it, not brought it to the floor, not introduced a bill,’” he recalled to reporters during an event for his upcoming program, a crime show called The Hunt. “I said, ‘They’re all scared shitless of the NRA, aren’t they?’”

“‘John, every one of them,’” the vice president replied, according to Walsh. “‘Because the NRA will run a tea-bagger against you … They’ll put 5 million bucks against you.’”

The lack of moral outrage when the insults are hurled at Constitution-supporting, Second Amendment-respecting, conservative Americans is absurd.

EMPIRE STATE REBELLION: Hundred of Thousands of New Yorkers Refuse To Register So-Called “Assault Weapons” Ahead Of April 15 Deadline

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This is from Bearing Arms.

It is refreshing to see New Yorker’s telling  Commissar Cuomo to go pound sound.

There may still be hope for the state of New York.



Due the tyrannical actions of Andrew Cuomo and his allies in the state legislature,  New York residents are required to register an estimated 1 million firearms designated as “assault weapons” under the NY SAFE Act by April 15.

Unfortunately for the Governor and his allies, it appears that the open revolt of most of the state’s law enforcement leaders against NY SAFE—who correctly view the law as a blatantly unconstitutional assault on the state constitution and the Second Amendment—means that noncompliance is overwhelming.

While NY State Police refuse to publicly share the number of firearms that have been registered (citing a provision of the NY SAFE Act itself), leaks purporting to be from within the agency suggest that compliance might be as low as just 3,000-5,000 firearms. There is no way to conclusively verify this paltry figure which suggests that 99.5% of New Yorkers are thumbing their noses at Albany, but it may very well be a credible figure.


Non-compliance rates of 85%-90% or more are the rule when draconian gun control laws demanding registration are passed in the United States. Those rates are normal even with relatively popular support from voters and law enforcement. Those dynamics of “popular support” are assuredly not in play in New York.

While gun registration may be exceedingly popular south of the Tappan Zee Bridge, and in a few pockets upstate, many (if not most) law enforcement officers and gun owners in the state have publicly rebelled against the law. Many municipal and county governments have joined them in open defiance. Gun owners in New York are well aware of the fact that their county sheriffs, state police, and local officers don’t intend to enforce the law, a stance that many law enforcement leaders have announced publicly.

Knowing that the chief law enforcement officers in most counties have announced that they will not enforce the law, a non-compliance rate exceeding 95% and perhaps exceeding 98% does indeed seem plausible.

As New York Assemblyman Bill Nojay (R-Pittsford) noted previously:

“The rank and file troopers don’t want anything to do with it,” Assemblyman Bill Nojay (R-Pittsford) said Monday. “I don’t know of a single sheriff upstate who is going to enforce it.”

“If you don’t have the troopers and you don’t have the sheriffs, who have you got? You’ve got Andrew Cuomo pounding on the table in Albany,” Nojay said.

Andrew Cuomo has demonstrated that he has the political power to ram through unconstitutional laws in Albany. What he’s also unwittingly exposed is his complete inability to enforce them.

Sheriffs Refuse to Enforce Laws on Gun Control


This is from The New York Times.

It is refreshing to see these Sheriffs standing up to these

Unconstitutional gun laws.

Most people, including politicians fail to realize that the ultimate legal authorities in the land are the county sheriffs.  This was established from the time of the Founding Fathers and upheld by the US Supreme Court in the 1997 case of Printz v. United States.  Initially, the case was Mack v. United States, but by the time it reached the Supreme Court it was renamed.

Michael Ciaglo/The Colorado Springs Gazette, via Associated Press

John Cooke is among the Colorado sheriffs who are resisting enforcement of new state gun laws.


GREELEY, Colo. — When Sheriff John Cooke of Weld County explains in speeches why he is not enforcing the state’s new gun laws, he holds up two 30-round magazines. One, he says, he had before July 1, when the law banning the possession, sale or transfer of the large-capacity magazines went into effect. The other, he “maybe” obtained afterward.

 He shuffles the magazines, which look identical, and then challenges the audience to tell the difference.

“How is a deputy or an officer supposed to know which is which?” he asks.

Colorado’s package of gun laws, enacted this year after mass shootings in Aurora, Colo., and Newtown, Conn., has been hailed as a victory by advocates of gun control. But if Sheriff Cooke and a majority of the other county sheriffs in Colorado offer any indication, the new laws — which mandate background checks for private gun transfers and outlaw magazines over 15 rounds — may prove nearly irrelevant across much of the state’s rural regions.

Some sheriffs, like Sheriff Cooke, are refusing to enforce the laws, saying that they are too vague and violate Second Amendment rights. Many more say that enforcement will be “a very low priority,” as several sheriffs put it. All but seven of the 62 elected sheriffs in Colorado signed on in May to a federal lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the statutes.

The resistance of sheriffs in Colorado is playing out in other states, raising questions about whether tougher rules passed since Newtown will have a muted effect in parts of the American heartland, where gun ownership is common and grass-roots opposition to tighter restrictions is high.

In New York State, where Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo signed one of the toughest gun law packages in the nation last January, two sheriffs have said publicly they would not enforce the laws — inaction that Mr. Cuomo said would set “a dangerous and frightening precedent.” The sheriffs’ refusal is unlikely to have much effect in the state: According to the state’s Division of Criminal Justice Services, since 2010 sheriffs have filed less than 2 percent of the two most common felony gun charges. The vast majority of charges are filed by the state or local police.

In Liberty County, Fla., a jury in October acquitted a sheriff who had been suspended and charged with misconduct after he released a man arrested by a deputy on charges of carrying a concealed firearm. The sheriff, who was immediately reinstated by the governor, said he was protecting the man’s Second Amendment rights.

And in California, a delegation of sheriffs met with Gov. Jerry Brown this fall to try to persuade him to veto gun bills passed by the Legislature, including measures banning semiautomatic rifles with detachable magazines and lead ammunition for hunting (Mr. Brown signed the ammunition bill but vetoed the bill outlawing the rifles).

“Our way of life means nothing to these politicians, and our interests are not being promoted in the legislative halls of Sacramento or Washington, D.C.,” said Jon E. Lopey, the sheriff of Siskiyou County, Calif., one of those who met with Governor Brown. He said enforcing gun laws was not a priority for him, and he added that residents of his rural region near the Oregon border are equally frustrated by regulations imposed by the federal Forest Service and the Environmental Protection Agency.

This year, the new gun laws in Colorado have become political flash points. Two state senators who supported the legislation were recalled in elections in September; a third resigned last month rather than face a recall. Efforts to repeal the statutes are already in the works.

Countering the elected sheriffs are some police chiefs, especially in urban areas, and state officials who say that the laws are not only enforceable but that they are already having an effect. Most gun stores have stopped selling the high-capacity magazines for personal use, although one sheriff acknowledged that some stores continued to sell them illegally. Some people who are selling or otherwise transferring guns privately are seeking background checks.

Eric Brown, a spokesman for Gov. John W. Hickenlooper of Colorado, said, “Particularly on background checks, the numbers show the law is working.” The Colorado Bureau of Investigation has run 3,445 checks on private sales since the law went into effect, he said, and has denied gun sales to 70 people.

A Federal District Court judge last month ruled against a claim in the sheriffs’ lawsuit that one part of the magazine law was unconstitutionally vague. The judge also ruled that while the sheriffs could sue as individuals, they had no standing to sue in their official capacity.

Still, the state’s top law enforcement officials acknowledged that sheriffs had wide discretion in enforcing state laws.

“We’re not in the position of telling sheriffs and chiefs what to do or not to do,” said Lance Clem, a spokesman for the Colorado Department of Public Safety. “We have people calling us all the time, thinking they’ve got an issue with their sheriff, and we tell them we don’t have the authority to intervene.”

Sheriffs who refuse to enforce gun laws around the country are in the minority, though no statistics exist. In Colorado, though, sheriffs like Joe Pelle of Boulder County, who support the laws and have more liberal constituencies that back them, are outnumbered.

“A lot of sheriffs are claiming the Constitution, saying that they’re not going to enforce this because they personally believe it violates the Second Amendment,” Sheriff Pelle said. “But that stance in and of itself violates the Constitution.”

Even Sheriff W. Pete Palmer of Chaffee County, one of the seven sheriffs who declined to join the federal lawsuit because he felt duty-bound to carry out the laws, said he was unlikely to aggressively enforce them. He said enforcement poses “huge practical difficulties,” and besides, he has neither the resources nor the pressure from his constituents to make active enforcement a high priority. Violations of the laws are misdemeanors.

“All law enforcement agencies consider the community standards — what is it that our community wishes us to focus on — and I can tell you our community is not worried one whit about background checks or high-capacity magazines,” he said.

At their extreme, the views of sheriffs who refuse to enforce gun laws echo the stand of Richard Mack, a former Arizona sheriff and the author of “The County Sheriff: America’s Last Hope.” Mr. Mack has argued that county sheriffs are the ultimate arbiters of what is constitutional and what is not. The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, founded by Mr. Mack, is an organization of sheriffs and other officers who support his views.

“The Supreme Court does not run my office,” Mr. Mack said in an interview. “Just because they allow something doesn’t mean that a good constitutional sheriff is going to do it.” He said that 250 sheriffs from around the country attended the association’s recent convention.

Matthew J. Parlow, a law professor at Marquette University, said that some states, including New York, had laws that allowed the governor in some circumstances to investigate and remove public officials who engaged in egregious misconduct — laws that in theory might allow the removal of sheriffs who failed to enforce state statutes.

But, he said, many governors could be reluctant to use such powers. And in most cases, any penalty for a sheriff who chose not to enforce state law would have to come from voters.

Sheriff Cooke, for his part, said that he was entitled to use discretion in enforcement, especially when he believed the laws were wrong or unenforceable.

“In my oath it says I’ll uphold the U.S. Constitution and the Constitution of the State of Colorado,” he said, as he posed for campaign photos in his office — he is running for the State Senate in 2014. “It doesn’t say I have to uphold every law passed by the Legislature.”


NYS goes full on Nazi; SAFE act to encourage people to inform on neighbors if they have too many bullets


This is from Bullets First.

I am sure Hitler and Himmler are celebrating in their

corner of Hell.

I have no doubt Stalin and Chairman Mao are celebrating.

One more reason to avoid the state of New York. 


Fuhrer Cuomo has goosestepped his way even further down the path that leads to a freedom-less tyrannical autocracy.

Apparently Cuomo fashions himself as a modern day Hitler.

Yeah…how’s that for some bombastic opening sentences.

Calling someone Hitler or a Nazi has long been a pastime of liberals who find themselves unable to cognitively refute a person with a different ideology.

They toss it around so much that it has become cliche.  I’m not doing that.  Rather, I am pointing out how the methods of the Third Reich are being implemented as we speak in the Empire State under the watch of one Andrew Cuomo.

Changing the rules in order to ram the SAFE Act down the throats of New Yorkers before they had time to voice dissent is one thing.

Enacting a program where, in order to enforce the SAFE Act, you are encouraging neighbors to inform on neighbors anonymously is something that hearkens back to the dark time of Germany.


We all have this idea that the Gestapo, Germany’s secret police, were everywhere and that it was they who ferreted out the Jews and Gays and dissenters.  Yet research done by History Prof. Robert Gellately at FSU , whose expertise deals with the Holocaust and Nazi Germany sheds new light on the myth that the secret police was as omnipresent as the movies would make out.

“There were relatively few secret police, and most were just processing the information coming in. I had found a shocking fact. It wasn’t the secret police who were doing this wide-scale surveillance and hiding on every street corner. It was the ordinary German people who were informing on their neighbors.

And despite the myth that the informers were driven either by a love of the Third Reich or fear from authority, Gellately finds a more base motivation behind the actions of those who named names:

But the motives found were banal—greed, jealousy, and petty differences.

Adolf Hitler in Yugoslavia.

Adolf Hitler in Yugoslavia. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Adolf Hitler Wanted you to spy on your neighbors for money

Cases of partners in business turning in associates to gain full ownership; jealous boyfriends informing on rival suitors; neighbors betraying entire families who chronically left shared bathrooms unclean or who occupied desirable apartments.

And then there were those who informed because for the first time in their lives someone in authority would listen to them and value what they said.

What of people saying they didn’t realize what would happen to those they turned in, that they didn’t think the government would act the way they did?  Gellately states:

“If somebody tells you that they lived in Germany during the Holocaust and didn’t know about concentration camps, they are self-delusional, at best.”

Gellately compiled his findings and wrote a book: Backing Hitler: Consent and Coercion in Nazi Germany, 1933-1944

One of the most frightening ways that the Nazi’s were allowed to do this can be seen in the way gun controllers operate today.  Gellately paints a picture in which it is easy to see the similarities:

“They began with small violations of the rights of Jews and other minorities, and then ratcheted up their racism and persecution only when they saw implied consent from the German people.”

So too are these so-called “common sense” gun laws and small infringements just a stepping stone.  If we allow them to take root, the gun controllers will view that as implied consent and will continue to push for more and farther reaching infringements, not only on the 2nd Amendment but on the others as well, such as the ongoing attack on the Fourth Amendment which is also affected by New York’s new, “rat your neighbor out” policy.

Think about it.  You’re neighbor anonymously calls the authority and tells them you have 8 bullets in your magazine instead of 7 (yeah…that’s a crime in NY), what will be the response?

Will the police show up, knock on your door and ask nicely whether it is true?  Or will their response more likely include a no-knock warrant in the middle of the night that will surely cost your family dog its life if not your own?

Not only is this reminiscent of Nazi Germany but even closer to home it’s like the witch hunts of Salem where the accusation is enough to find you pressed to death or burned, drowned or hung.

English: Andrew Cuomo, 11th United States Secr...

English: Andrew Cuomo, 11th United States Secretary of Housing and Urban Development and 64th New York State Attorney General as a candidate for Governor of New York, outside of City Hall, little American flags on his tie. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Andrew Cuomo wants you to spy on your neighbors for money

So, we have Cuomo encouraging people to spy on and turn in their neighbors for a $500 bounty with no safeguards for the accused, nor any punishment for the accuser should their accusation be without merit.  This situation is so vulnerable to abuse it’s pathetic.  How long before a dispute between neighbors over a property line, or dog crap, or a trees branch ends up with dueling no-knock warrants and tossed houses and shot dogs?

So yeah…I don’t call Cuomo’s regime Nazi-like because I don’t have an artfully intelligent counter to his policies;  I call it Nazi-like because I do.  If it walks like a goose, talks like a goose and encourages neighbors to rat out neighbors like a goose, chances are its a freedom hating goosestepper.



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This is from Human Events.

I hope the people of New York can fire Gov. Coumo and are

able to repeal the tyrannical Safe Act.

Gun Owners and freedom loving people need to stand firm. 


Gun-toting New Yorkers say they will generate enough voters to defeat the far left agenda proposed by Democratic Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo.

“We are seeing a backlash from the governor’s urban-oriented base,” said New York State Assemblyman Pete D. Lopez (R.- Schoharie).

From the start, Cuomo calculated his positions to please two types of voters for two different reasons, he said.  “Cuomo does not need rural-conservative votes to win a statewide election, but he did want to show principled governance so that he could run for president.”

The governor started his campaign in 2010 to the right, he said.  “Cuomo fought for fiscal discipline, charter school funding, and a 2 percent tax cap.”

Two years later he swung the pendulum to the left, he said.  “Last year gay marriage was signed into law; in January the Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act was passed, and most recently he tried but failed to enact a reproductive rights agenda by bundling it up with other female-related issues.”

“His attempt to appease both political extremes is now imploding,” said Lopez who served as Schoharie county clerk for 21 years.

The Washington-based Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics included Cuomo in its 2013 “The Worst Governors in America” report.  CREW said Cuomo has transparency and cronyism failures.

CREW, who has a reputation for being left-leaning, is a nonprofit organization dedicated to promoting ethics and accountability in government and public life by targeting government officials who sacrifice the common good to special interests.

Opposition to New York’s extreme gun control law, commonly known as the SAFE Act, continues and elected officials are stepping forward to promote full repeal of the bill that was hastily, strong-armed into law.

“Behind the scenes, it is Cuomo’s base that is falling apart,” said Lopez who was a recipient of the David Williams Award for preservation of freedom and has an “A” rating with the National Rifle Association.

When push comes to shove Cuomo does not need the rural-conservative vote to be re-elected, but he does need rural-conservative support in order to be competitive in a national election, he said.  “Cuomo’s initial conservative-leaning proposals brought him some support.”

Now approximately one year before re-election time, the SAFE Act has triggered a complete collapse of upstate and rural support, he said.  “He cannot pull back even if he wanted to.”

“There is no doubt in my mind that the SAFE Act has caused Cuomo’s numbers to decline,” said Rus Thompson, a U.S. Army Veteran and founder of TEA New York.

“The SAFE Act is and has been viewed as an act of pure grandstanding and a political ploy to be the first official to pass the toughest gun law in the country after the senseless killings at Sandy Hook Elementary,” said the community activist from Buffalo, NY.

On Dec. 14, 2012, a lone gunman fatally shot 20 children and six adult staff members before committing suicide at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, CT.

Thompson said that Cuomo claims to be honest, open and transparent, but is nothing of the sort. “He avoids the public as much as humanly possible.”

“At a recent fundraiser in Syracuse some protesters attempted to get close to his gas guzzling SUV and he motioned them with a hand gesture that means: I will crush you,” he said.

“What an insult!” he said.

“Cuomo is a thug with a real punk attitude; it is his way or the highway,” he said.  “His liberal-progressive agenda may benefit New York City but it hurts the rest of the state.”

Next year,  members of Congress, state representatives and the governor’s seat are up for re-election, he said.  “I foresee trouble for anyone that voted for the SAFE Act and anyone still refusing to bring the repeal bill forward.”

Rep. David J. DiPietro (R.-East Aurora), a state assemblyman and state Sen. Kathleen A. Marchione (R. – Halfmoon) introduced reciprocal full repeal bills in the state’s legislature.

“We have put together a group of concerned citizens who are looking at New York State voting patterns,” said Hector J. Miranda, a community organizer from Poughkeepsie, NY.

Cuomo is losing numbers, he said.  “We will be actively working to register new voters who are gun owners.”

Former New York State governor George E. Pataki, a Republican, was able to capture the hearts and minds of voters, he said.  “We already have a candidate in mind that can defeat Cuomo.”

Pataki was the 53rd governor of New York, and the last Republican governor in office.  He served three consecutive four-year terms from Jan. 1, 1995 through Dec. 31, 2006.

Miranda’s group is not only targeting the governor, he said.  “We are targeting everyone who does not operate to protect our rights.”

There is an avenue to remove a right from the Constitution, he said.  “If the state legislature wants to negate the Second Amendment, then they can hold a constitutional convention.”

Miranda, who was active in politics in his hometown of San Juan, PR, said that politicians that support the SAFE Act could not be successful at overturning the Second Amendment at a convention so they resorted to passing an unconstitutional law with little debate.

He said they are working to inform minority communities because historically gun control laws target them.  “Not just in the United States, but globally, gun control laws have been initiated to oppress minorities.”

“We have a natural right to protect and preserve our lives,” he said.  “We also have a right to be free.


State gun law threatens LI weapons tester

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This is from Jews For The Preservation Of Firearms Ownership.

With all the rush by Comrade Cuomo and his goon squad

has passed laws that are harming businesses and LEOs.

These companies should pack up and head for a free

state to do business in.

Then let the state of New York go pound sand.


By Yancey Roy, – June 2nd, 2013

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Photo credit: Newsday / Ed Betz | David Mroczka, Senior Vice President and General Manager of
Dayton T. Brown, Inc., stands in the company’s gun testing facility in Bohemia. (May 31, 2013)


ALBANY – Dayton T. Brown Inc. has operated for six decades in Copiague, testing high-level weapons, armor and other equipment for the military, government agencies and private companies. Now, New York‘s new gun law is threatening part of its business, state lawmakers say.

At least one gun manufacturer says it won’t ship weapons to Dayton T. Brown because it doesn’t want to break New York‘s recently enacted ban on “assault” weapons, Long Island legislators say. Other suppliers have similar concerns.

Legislators said New York’s hastily enacted gun law has exemptions for manufacturers to possess such weapons, but not testing services such as Brown. They’ve introduced a bill to cover the company, but it’s uncertain when — or if — Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and state leaders will entertain any amendments to the gun law.

“This is one of those unintended consequences of the SAFE act,” said Assemb. Andrew Garbarino (R-Sayville), referring to the gun control law Cuomo pushed through in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., school massacre.

Critics have said the law, rushed to a vote in January in the State Legislature hours after it was printed, has a number of holes. Among the most noted complaints: Film production companies have expressed fears that it could prevent them from using “prop” weapons and high-capacity magazines. Retired law enforcement officers worry that it doesn’t expressly continue an exemption they had under the state’s previous assault weapon law.

The issue of weapons testing has had little notice so far.

Currently, testing is not treated as part of the weapons manufacturing process under the law, said state Sen. Phil Boyle (R-Bay Shore), who is sponsoring a bill along with Garbarino to change that. Boyle said that currently if a representative of the weapons manufacturer is on-site at Dayton T. Brown, no violation of the gun law would occur. But manufacturers “don’t want to send someone down to sit around” for weeks while testing is occurring, Boyle said.


‘Everybody is on edge’

Manufacturers are now concerned that they will violate the law by shipping weapons to the company, said Robert Single, Dayton T. Brown’s vice president and secretary. He said the dilemma jeopardizes a key part of their business.

“We have all the licenses. We’ve been doing this testing for 60 years,” Single said. “We have security clearances to test some very sophisticated weaponry for the military and this [law] makes no sense. . . . Everybody is on edge about it.”

Incorporated in 1950, Brown operates at a 300,000-square-foot facility in Copiague and employs about 250, Single said. It offers engineering and laboratory testing, and technical services to commercial, military, government and industrial customers.

Its website notes that the company tests munitions, ballistics and armor for vehicles such as Humvees, among other services. Touting its status as one of the largest independent testing facilities of its kind, Dayton T. Brown counts all four military branches among its clients, as well as the U.S. Department of Homeland Securityand the airline industry.

Single said that in 2011 the company poured “significant” money into expanding its testing facilities, building a 100-meter range with concrete-reinforced walls and ceilings and high-quality air filters. The investment was designed to give the company an edge on competitors, he said. The company also exposes weapons, bulletproof vests and armor plating to heat, dust and sand to test components.

Under federal regulations, testing isn’t considered part of manufacturing — so Dayton T. Brown doesn’t enjoy a manufacturer’s exemption to the gun law, said David Mroczka, vice president for the company’s engineering and testing division.

“We just want to carve something out to protect our scenario,” Mroczka said. “We’re not retaining the weapons or selling them. We’re just giving them back to the owners.”


The view in Albany

To get the bill passed, Garbarino would have to garner support in the Democrat-dominated Assembly. A spokesman for Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver (D-Manhattan) said the bill hasn’t been reviewed yet.

Cuomo, who would also have to support the measure, has signaled that he’s not inclined to reopen the gun control law to amendments. He agreed to carve out an exemption for current law enforcement officers. But the fate of another amendment to cover retired officers isn’t clear, even though the Assembly passed it last week. He has reacted coolly to a proposal by his fellow Democratsto exempt film productions from some of the gun restrictions.

A Cuomo spokesman said the governor hasn’t reviewed the Garbarino-Boyle bill.

The legislature passed the gun bill one month after the Newtown shootings. Though it enjoyed broad support, critics say it was enacted in haste as New York tried to be the first state to act. Cuomo said the law was in the works for a long time and has touted it as one of his signature achievements.

Boyle was one of 43 senators to vote for the bill, although he later said that was a mistake. He said the process lacked transparency and the bill contained oversights. The situation with Dayton T. Brown is one of those, he said.

“Obviously, there needs to be more technical changes to the SAFE Act,” he said. “This proposal falls under that heading.”


NRA affiliate vows fight as key measures of New York’s tough new gun law take effect

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This is from Fox News Politics.

King Andrew The Pious needs to be smacked down by the courts.

This is a blatant violation of The Second Amendment.

New Yorker‘s  it is time to say “Don’t Tread On Us.’


ALBANY, N.Y. –  Key measures of New York’s tough new gun law are set to kick in, with owners of guns now reclassified as assault weapons required to register the firearms and new limits on the number of bullets allowed in magazines.

As the new provisions take effect Monday, New York’s affiliate of the National Rifle Association said it plans to head to court to seek an immediate halt to the magazine limit.

Gov. Andrew Cuomo calls those and other provisions in the state’s new gun law common sense while dismissing criticisms he says come from “extreme fringe conservatives” who claim the government has no right to regulate guns.

“Yes, they are against it, but they are the extremists and the extremists shouldn’t win, especially on this issue when it is so important to the majority,” Cuomo said in a radio interview Wednesday. “In politics, we have to be willing to take on the extremists, otherwise you will see paralysis.”

New York’s new gun restrictions, the first in the nation passed following December’s massacre at a Connecticut elementary school, limit state gun owners to no more than seven bullets in magazines, except at competitions or firing ranges.

The new regulations in New York commence as the U.S. Senate prepares to debate expanded gun legislation and weeks after Connecticut joined Colorado in signing into law tougher new gun restrictions.

The New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, the state’s NRA affiliate, has a pending federal lawsuit against the new provisions. It plans to ask a judge Monday for an immediate halt to the magazine limit. The new registrations, required over the next year, will be the group’s focus later.

The law violates the constitutional rights of law-abiding citizens “to keep commonly possessed firearms” at home for self-defense and for other lawful purposes, the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association said in court papers. It is advising members to obey the law in the meantime.

“We are lawful and legal citizens of New York state and we always obey the law,” association President Tom King said. “It’s as simple as that.”

State Police planned to post forms on their website for registration starting Monday. Owners of those guns, now banned from in-state sales, are required within a year to register them. Alternatively, they can legally sell them to a licensed dealer or out of state by next Jan. 15.

Rich Davenport, recording secretary of the Erie County Federation of Sportsmen’s Clubs, said their nearly 11,000 members are united in opposition to the law, which he considers a hasty, illogical and emotional response to the Newtown, Conn., school shooting. He also questioned likely compliance with the registration requirement.

“I’m guessing it’ll be pretty low,” said Davenport, a longtime hunter. He said that even though he’s not personally affected by the registration provision, “I’m offended as an American.”

The toughest part of the new statute — banning in-state sales of those guns newly classified as “assault weapons” — immediately took effect Jan. 15. The new classification related to a single military-style feature, such as a pistol grip on semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines. Other listed features include a folding or thumbhole stock, bayonet mount, flash suppressor, or second protruding grip held by the non-trigger hand.

It requires owners to register an estimated 1 million guns previously not classified as assault weapons by April 15, 2014, though law enforcement officials acknowledge they don’t know exactly how many such guns New Yorkers have.

The assault weapon definition also applies to some shotguns and handguns. They include shotguns that are semi-automatic, or self-loading, and have another feature, such as a folding stock, a second handgrip held by the non-shooting hand or the ability to accept a detachable magazine.

Also covered are semi-automatic pistols that can take detachable magazines and have another feature, such as a folding or thumbhole stock, a second handgrip and a threaded barrel that can accept a silencer.

Many county boards in New York have passed resolutions urging at least partial repeal of the law while warning that new registration requirements would be a costly burden on them.

Herkimer County Clerk Sylvia Rowan said Thursday she had received no registration forms for those guns. “There’s a lot of confusion on this,” she said.

Rowan noted that she had received few formal requests filed from the holders of the county’s 12,000 pistol permits to exempt their information from public disclosure, something else authorized under the new law.

Passed Jan. 15, a month after the school shooting in Newtown, Conn., the statute originally banned magazines with more than seven bullets effective April 15. Connecticut officials said that shooter Adam Lanza used a semi-automatic Bushmaster AR-15 and five 30-round magazines to kill 20 children and six adults in minutes.

However, acknowledging that manufacturers don’t make seven-bullet magazines, the Cuomo administration and New York lawmakers amended their law on March 29, keeping 10-bullet magazines legal but generally illegal to load them with more than seven bullets.

The new Colorado bill, signed into law last month, bans ammunition magazines that hold more than 15 rounds.

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Cuomo: That gun law I signed turned out to be utterly unworkable, huh?

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This is from Hot Air.

Like all true Liberals Andrew Cuomo runs on the,

“We know what is best for the great unwashed.”

The old “We need to do something” is used also.


If Andrew Cuomo has truly had an epiphany about his approach to gun regulation, it’s not really evident from this admission.  The New York Times reports that Cuomo will now try to rush some changes into his banner gun-control legislation that forced New York gun owners to use magazines that no one manufactures, with even the one exception to the rule found to be unworkable (viaLegal Insurrection):

In the wake of the elementary school massacre in Newtown, Conn., Gov.Andrew M. Cuomo of New York pushed through the State Legislature gun control measures that included not only a tougher assault weapons ban but also a tighter restriction on the maximum legal capacity of gun magazines.

But after weeks of criticism from gun owners, Mr. Cuomo said on Wednesday that he would seek to ease the restriction, which he said had proved unworkable even before it was scheduled to take effect on April 15.

The gun-control law, approved in January, banned the sale of magazines that hold more than seven rounds of ammunition. But, Mr. Cuomo said Wednesday, seven-round magazines are not widely manufactured. And, although the new gun law provided an exemption for the use of 10-round magazines at firing ranges and competitions, it did not provide a legal way for gun owners to purchase such magazines.

Now, one might think that after having been embarrassed by his own ignorance — and in the face of a number of critics who pointed these issues out from the beginning — Cuomo would advise the legislature to repeal the bill and start over again.  One would be … wrong. This New York governor has decided to correct one idiocy with another, emphasis mine:

As a result, he said, he and legislative leaders were negotiating language that would continue to allow the sale of magazines holding up to 10 rounds, but still forbid New Yorkers from loading more than 7 rounds into those magazines.

Er, what? Will the police be around to check how many bullets are loaded into each magazine?  And, by the way, will criminals be deterred from loading rounds 8, 9, and 10 into the magazine?  The whole idea of magazine limits is to limit those with criminal intent from firing too many bullets without having to reload, at which point the law expects the disarmed to rush the criminal rather than shoot back and hope he’s worse at reloading than they will be at beating someone into submission. How will Cuomo’s latest idea deter criminals, who will have zero fear of having a gun inspection before committing their crimes?

“Hey, let’s go rob that bank.  Get your guns ready, and — oh yeah, don’t load more than seven bullets into each magazine.”

Furthermore, if that kind of restriction was at all useful, then why pass a law forbidding 15-round or 30-round magazines at all? Just pass a law that says no one can load more than seven bullets into the magazine, and voila! Problem solved, right?

William Jacobson calls this new idea “irrational and arbitrary.” It’s also dumber than a box of rocks, and anyone with a hint of self-awareness would have realized it before the press release went ou


Governor Cuomo Makes High Capacity Magazines a Worse Offense Than Child Pornography

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This is from FrontPageMag. com.

Andrew The Twit Cuomo is out crazing Mayor Loonberg.

That is saying a mouthful because Bloomie nuttier than a fruitcake.

I feel sorry for the law biding citizens of New York.

As far as I am concerned if you have child porn you get death.

What’s worse? Owning a high capacity magazine or child pornography.

According to Governor Andrew Cuomo, child pornography, stealing children, rape in the 3rd degree, criminally negligent homicide and choking someone are lesser offenses than owning a high capacity magazine.

If your child is lured under the reign of Cuomo the Second, then you better hope the molester also did something “seriously wrong” like owning a high capacity magazine.

Possession of – for an example – a standard capacity 13-round magazine for a 9mm SIG Sauer P229 or any magazines holding more than 11 rounds is and will be a Class D Violent Felony, even for owners who possessed large capacity magazines prior to Sept. 1994 when possession was grandfathered.)

Listed below the fold are a few crimes in New York that are class E felonies and A misdemeanors which are one or two arrest levels below a class D felony.

Luring a child

Criminal obstruction of breathing or blood circulation

Criminally negligent homicide

Rape 3rd degree

Criminal sexual act 3rd degree

Persistent sexual abuse

Substitution of children

Unlawful imprisonment 1st degree

Female genital mutilation

Possessing a sexual performance by a child

Cuomo is clearly jealous of Bloomberg’s reputation as the craziest nanny state fascist in the state and is eagerly trying to catch up to him by criminalizing ownership of a magazine more so than abusing a child.

Another reminder that gun control is just fascism misspelled.



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