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This is from Jews For The Preservation Of Firearms Ownership.

By Rob Morse, December 22nd 2013
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Picture: Oleg Volk

I know it is the Holidays, but put on your detective hat for a second. How do we know guns save lives? We know a gun was used when the criminal was shot by the victim. Evidence is pretty obvious in that case. There is even evidence if the victim shoots and misses. Ideally, the criminal sees that the victim is armed and stops before shots are fired. Obviously there is no physical evidence of the psychological decision to break off the attack. That explains why the self-defense statistics are inconsistent from report to report. We can’t even define what we mean by using a gun in self-defense. It doesn’t leave evidence at the crime scene. Do guns stop crime or not? Well, Sherlock, what do you think? Here are some recent examples to test you.

♦ In one case, a contractor was working on an empty house. A criminal walked in, picked up a crowbar, and threatened the contractor. The contractor presented his licensed handgun and the criminal fled. The police called it an attempted robbery. The contractor thinks it is a defensive gun use (DGU), even though he didn’t pull the trigger. The criminal knows exactly why he changed his mind and ran. What do you deduce?

♦ In another case, a store owner was struck over the head and threatened with a handgun during a robbery. The store owner pushed the thieves out of his store and locked the doors. A Good Samaritan walked by the store and saw the armed thieves beating on the store windows and doors. The Samaritan drew his own weapon and the thieves ran. Both the Samaritan and the store owner think the Good Samaritan’s firearm made the thieves break off their attack.

♦ A man was sitting in his car when a thief jumped in and attempted to carjack him. The driver had his legally carried gun against the carjackers head before the car moved. The police arrested the thief and charged him with attempted theft of the automobile. I call this a defensive gun use. Would you still call it a DGU if the thief had run away and not been captured? Maybe the police will ask him.

Each week I report on cases where guns are successfully used in self-defense. Sometimes shots are fired, but often the intended victims defend themselves without pulling the trigger. Stopping the attack without firing a shot is the best possible outcome, yet somehow we ignore this outcome in our crime statistics. I guess we should pass a law requiring criminals to stick around and answer research questions.

The National Research Council surveyed many crime reports that use very different definitions of defensive gun use. The results show that guns are used in self-defense between two times and ten times more often than they are used in crime. Take their data with a grain of salt. Scholars will argue about how much and how often, but the good news is law abiding gun owners continue to save lives.

What do you think?

~_~_

Rob

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Injured robber’s family says armed citizen should have ‘just left the store’

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This is from Guns.com.

This son of Obama was on his way to choir  practice.

When he got to the Family Dollar Store he saw the

store clerk on his knees.

So Adric White put on a masked and went into the

Family Dollar Store to pray with the clerk.

Then out of no where a man appears and starts

shooting at Adric White

Does my story sound like Bravo Sierra?

The story the family Adric White’s family is telling 

even more Bravo Sierra.

 

The family of a suspect who was shot by an armed customer while attempting to rob a Family Dollar store in Mobile, Alabama earlier this month told Fox 10 that the Good Samaritan should not have gotten involved and “just left the store.”

It was Tuesday, Nov. 12, when the armed citizen, whose identity has not been revealed, noticed 18-year-old Adric White wearing a mask and pointing a gun at employees towards the front of the store.

“He had the gun to his head. He had him on his knees,” the man said. “I drew my gun on him and I said ‘Hey, don’t move.’ At that point he swung around and before he had a chance to aim the gun at me, I fired.”

The man added, “It was just instinct. It happened so quickly. I didn’t want to shoot him, but when I saw him swing around so fast I didn’t want to get shot either.”

White was shot five times and transported to a local hospital where he is recovering and remains in police custody.

Authorities also arrested White’s accomplice, 19-year-old Tavoris Moss.

White was arrested in September for the armed robbery of The Original Oyster House, and was out on bond when he attempted to rob the Family Dollar store. Now the Baldwin County District Attorney’s Office has filed to have the original bond revoked. The DA wants White to remain in jail once he is released from the hospital and to prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law.

Authorities maintain that the Good Samaritan was justified in shooting White and that he broke no laws when he did so. But White’s family disagrees.

“If his (the Good Samaritan) life was not in danger, if no one had a gun up to him, if no one pointed a gun at him — what gives him the right to think that it’s okay to just shoot someone?” one relative told the Fox affiliate during a phone interview. “You should have just left the store and went wherever you had to go in your car or whatever.”

But the relative even admitted that she wasn’t aware of all of the facts surrounding both robberies.

When reporters asked her opinion on the teen’s involvement in robbing two stores in less than two months, she responded by saying, “We don’t know. Like I said, we don’t know anything. We only know what we’ve been hearing second hand through the news. I would not like to comment because I don’t know.”

Local media interviewed White’s parents, but they later called the station and demanded that the video not be aired.

White’s family also told reporters that he was hanging with the wrong crowd, needed help and didn’t deserve to get shot.

 

Armed robber interrupts family’s fast food lunch, Dad shoots him

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This is from BizPac Review.

Try to rob me during lunch would piss me off also.

I would have shot his dumb ass dead.

 

National Rifler Association spokesman Wayne LaPierre recently remarked, “The only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” Florida man made this point crystal clear over the weekend.

At a Burger King on Miami’s Biscayne Blvd., a robber walked in, displayed his gun and demanded that a family turn over its valuables, according to NBC-6 News Miami.

What the robber didn’t consider is that Floridians respect the Constitution, including the Second Amendment right to bear arms.

The father pulled out his own firearm and shot the robber in the leg.

NBC-6 South Florida reported:

The suspect, 36-year-old Travis Harris, jumped into a getaway Ford F-150 and took off, police said.

Police said they found him and the driver, 38-year-old Ramon Smalls, a few blocks away thanks to a Good Samaritan who followed them and alerted police. The two suspects were taken into custody at a gas station at Northeast 2nd Avenue and 26th Street after they apparently ran out of fuel, police added.

When the robber and his accomplice finally get out of jail, they may want to go back into business in a less firearm-friendly state.

Read more ar Miami Channel 6.

 

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